tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11176644.post5892830568995281295..comments2023-08-28T08:23:58.094-04:00Comments on Joe's Rants: Detainees Will Be Tried In US Civilian CourtJoehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11832376808513132553noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11176644.post-65635202944360512492009-11-15T23:30:38.942-05:002009-11-15T23:30:38.942-05:00I'm not concerned with the platform that the d...I'm not concerned with the platform that the detainees may have during the trial but I could be very wrong. I don't think there is anything that hasn't already been said many times. I think GITMO and enhanced interrogation did more damage than statements during the trial could ever do.<br /><br />I don't know how Holder will deal with the issues you have raised. If the police extracted evidence from a suspect using waterboarding, that evidence would not be allowed and should not be allowed.<br /><br />I expect the defending attorney's to ask that all evidence collected during illegal interrogations be thrown out. I don't know if the confessions of the detainees are true or false but we do know that some of the original detainees were innocent but held for years before being released. If I had been waterboarded I'm sure that I would have confessed to everything to stop the torture.<br /><br />So, who are we to assume that because we believe the detainees to be guilty that all or any of them are?<br /><br />This is a big reason why the Bush administration should not have tortured the detainees. It produced questionable results at best and the results should not be admissable in court.<br /><br />If our justice system - not Eric Holder or the Obama administration - disallows all the evidence collected during "enhanced interrogation" then we should only blame the Bush administration.<br /><br />I'm not picking on President Bush. The Bush administration admitted that it used torture when interrogating some of the detainees; Cheney has publicly admitted it and has not stopped defending it.<br /><br />I don't want to let the guilty go unpunished but I have always said that confessions extracted with torture are worthless, just as worthless as they were during the witch trials. I can't now say that the confessions are good simply because I believe the detainees are guilty.<br /><br />I assume that the prosecution will be able to provide adequate evidence of guilt without having to use the coerced confessions but only a trial will provide an answer.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11832376808513132553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11176644.post-23191387278745754282009-11-15T11:43:32.038-05:002009-11-15T11:43:32.038-05:00I am glad that Holder is risking and dealing with ...I am glad that Holder is risking and dealing with its detainees. Ann and I were talking about it this morning.. we think that it is a good thing but had a few concerns:<br /><br />1) The environment of Guantanamo will most likely be on trial and bad tactics like water-boarding could be used in the defense of those who executed the 9/11 massacres.<br /><br />2) Khalid Sheik Mohammed and his cohorts will have a huge platform.. the trials could be a huge media circus along the order of the OJ trials.<br /><br />Lastly I have to wonder how a not-guilty verdict for Khalid Sheik Mohammed would play out.. what if he got off on a technicality?<br /><br />I guess I am just a bit nervous about how our court system will handle the trials.<br /><br />All that said.. really maybe just some of my paranoia surfacing.. I have to say that Holder is doing the right thing. I agree with you Joe when you say:<br /><br />"Our imprisonment of the detainees and our refusal to try them in a court are recruiting assets for the terrorists. It is important in the war against terrorists to resolve the detainee issue in our civilian courts in full view of the world and our enemies."kc bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17440862813109808755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11176644.post-32667459257486009152009-11-15T10:12:37.502-05:002009-11-15T10:12:37.502-05:00I'm very happy that they won't be guilty b...I'm very happy that they won't be guilty before "proven" guilty.Mike aka MonolithTMAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08385705390882035829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11176644.post-4778798539531372142009-11-14T17:53:07.525-05:002009-11-14T17:53:07.525-05:00Excellent blog and agree with all your points. Ku...Excellent blog and agree with all your points. Kudos to Holder and the Obama Administration for making the right decision.Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14105340456346774895noreply@blogger.com